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  1. Marian DANILA says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:06 am

    Great video, man ! Thank you for the effort !

  2. It’s been a little over a month, are there any benchmarks out there with non-intel cherry picked chips showing whether the insinuations regarding poor turbo clock performance were correct?

  3. The-Redacted Computer says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:09 am

    another good video Jim!

  4. Harsesis Hok'tar says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:12 am


  5. 3.8ghz(depending on load? what load?) on 6 core and 14nm still? Not everyone is engineer, but, thats just stupendous. Energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Nope?

  6. Cavey Möth says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:16 am

    Intel is gonna need a heck of a lot of turbo in order to compete with the Ryzen 3000 series. Perhaps they could call it MCV or "Multi Core Vtech."

  7. Wrathinside says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:17 am

    So, HP gets the worst-binned chips? Good to know!

  8. Akarshy V says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:19 am

    lmao and ill still need to overclock my i5-8600k cause that multicore enhancement wont function in normal scenarios

  9. i5 8400 all the way sorry. For $300 (after $15 rebate) you can get an i5 8400 and a z370 motherboard. Soon you will be able to get cheaper motherboards.

  10. A lot of this seems like speculation based on old data. Lots of the 8000k chips are overclockable to 5GHz and above, seems to peak on AIOs at 5.3GHz when you win the silicon lottery. I’m all-AMD, besides the Tegra X1 in my Switch, but yeah.

  11. You should take a look at intel mobile CPUs. They all have HUGE turbo boost tables and super low base speeds. The CPUs WILL return "throttle" if they cannot hold full turbo, but OEMs and such insist that base clock must not be attainable before there is considered throttling. Mark my words: turbo boost should be "on" under sufficient load.

  12. 8400 + mATX B motherboard FTW! ☕😍

  13. Sam M. Atherton says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:24 am

    Hey is this feature also available for non k-skues? Because a 4ghz all core turbo on a $200 chip by running a z-board is pretty killer, especially with its 2.8ghz base clock… Kinda makes sense then why the z-boards are the only ones available too.

  14. i always knew that reviews whas the highest performance possible, its all well and nice if you know it while reading it but the gap is really big now. revieser should maybe do low end reviews also, reals life performance on lower end parts and coolers.

  15. Frank Logrim says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:26 am

    so fucking good content, you just keep blowing my mind and keep me feed with the idea that Intel cpu’s are just not worth spending money on EVEN if they klock very high and perform good in games, I mean what difference does it make if you have about 100 fps or 140fps… The other stuff you can do simultaneously with a Ryzen cpu is just incredible.. Yet im pulling my hair trying to explain to my friends that amd is the way to go and they are just blinded by the fps results of those benchmarkers they put their trust into…..

  16. Muscles Mouse says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:26 am

    1230 on cinebench? I think my x58 xeon can do that.

  17. F*ck Intel! Och aye the noo!.. Great job!

  18. Main Fighter says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:28 am

    I’m happy with my 8700k

  19. Multi core enhancement is not new at all. I have it on a 6yr old board. It seems you’ve been proven wrong now anyway, real world performance of 8600/8700 is well within what we were shown on these respectable websites. I believe you calling out Guru 3d is a low blow as they are not know for being biased

  20. Abraham Lincoln says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:29 am

    Z370 boards are not that expensive. the difference between a decent B350 or X370 board and a Z370 board is like $20. also, intel CPUs aren’t anywhere near as picky with RAM. whatever money you save on a motherboard when buying AMD, you’ll end up blowing on Samsung B Die RAM.

  21. i am still Supper Pissed as i whet out and got a good Z270 mother board and a cheep i3.. To save up for a 7700k but when i heared the 8700k and found out i cant use my motherboard!!!

  22. Great Videos, very eye opening thank you for spending your time in bringing this information to us all 🙂 i have subbed 🙂 cheers

  23. Except no because its already been shown that some of the tech tubers tested with MCE enabled without knowing due to the ASUS boards having MCE turned on by default, while others tested with AORUS boards and such which come with MCE disabled by default, resulting in the lower scores.

  24. Mariachi153 says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:32 am

    lol that i5 8400 takes the cake. 2.8 Ghz base clock with 3.8 Ghz max turbo… but good luck getting there.

  25. Ricky Ramos says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:32 am

    Is this propaganda?

  26. ErgonomicChair says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:33 am

    Wow, this was enlightening.

  27. Seth NoWai says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:34 am

    And rabbit hole goes deeper… 😀 But I guess it is worse then I might have thought.

  28. kitty sox says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:35 am

    My 8400 i5 just randomly purchased from newegg holds 3.9 all core turbo with no multi core enhance.

  29. mark vietti says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:37 am

    Intel has to do there own fabs in order to keep there military contracts. this is why they cannot out source…like AMD and Nvidia..

  30. ambearcat says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:39 am

    CON LAKE is short for CONDOM LAKE

  31. Unless you are going to delid the CPU, dont expect the 8700K to run 5ghz, Delid it, put some liquid metal, and 5ghz 24/7 is easy with temps under 80c

  32. Andrei Neacsu says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:42 am

    I suspect that the Intel TDP today refers to the thermal output design at the base frequency. That is why massive cooling is the solution to keeping higher turbo clocks, despite 95W being something quite trivial for most air coolers. I keep cold an older FX-8350 (125W) at nice temperatures with a low-profile BeQuiet! air cooler that’s rated at 130W and can be obtained at less than $40 whenever on sale. Yet, the same cooler is inadequate for a proper sustainable turbo or overclock of the 7700K. It is only reasonable to assume that the 8700k draws 40% more power at each of the equivalent P-states than the 7700K.

  33. Dante S550 10R80'S says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:42 am

    newegg has the 8700k in stock limited 1 per customer, but $420 atm. Also no free shipping even the 4-7 day shipping cost $1 lol.

  34. thanosAIAS says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:42 am

    No matter what, the benchmarks show significant difference with AMD, unfortunately. So significant, that Intel is the only way forward for gamers at least.

  35. Manual of ASUS ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING, page 73 (section 3-15):
    "ASUS MultiCore Enhancement: [Auto] This item allows you to maximize the oveclocking performance optimized by ASUS core ratio settings."

    The whole issue is between error and incompetence.

  36. TheFauvel says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:44 am

    The reason I’m still subscribed to Linus is the same reason I’m still subscribed to Hydraulic Press Channel. It’s just for mindless entertainment, his reviews are pure garbage, with the exception of phone reviews.

    If I want proper reviews there are much better sources to choose from.

  37. CorwinINaDSM says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:46 am

    3.9 on all cores on my i5 8400, but thats with MCE 102.9 bclk on a ASUS z370I ROG Strix, with a Zalman cooler. Didn’t feel that fast before I turned on MCE, upped the ram speed, and changed bclk. Temps are cooler than my old proc by a lot.

  38. NapoleonBonaparte says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:48 am

    How much is AMD paying you

  39. I can’t find anything similar as MultiCore Enhancement in my Prema BIOS (Clevo P775TM1-G) for 8700K.
    BTW is normal to have 7-10C difference between cores after professional deliding? Guys from Dreammachines said it’s completely fine but never saw temperatures like this at any laptop.

  40. G Roberts says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:56 am

    AdoredTV, please keep these videos up. People need to know this info.

  41. Kind of funny how pretty much the same exact thing has just replayed itself with the 9900K, but using TDP limits rather than MCE.

  42. I decided to start a new build. Good lord, what have I done!

  43. Zeitec Smith says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:58 am

    Tdp has nothing to do with power draw. It is a cooling specification. Stop saying they need to keep the CPU power draw under 65 watts. It’d not true.

  44. Marc Albert says: July 28th, 2022 at 3:59 am

    I’m running a Xeon 1231v3 at 3.8GHZ on all cores (forced) on a b85m chipset and cooled by a 212Evo (this might make a difference).
    here are my hwinfos when testing multicores on cinebench :
    Max power consumtion = 81,258 W (80w tdp)
    Max Core clocks = 3,801.3 Mhz Min Core clocks = 3,799.9 Mhz.

    It’s basically manual MCE

    I can’t believe new intel chips can’t do better than their older brothers (this statement goes to intel, not AdoredTV).
    Is intel being fishy now ?

  45. Rocket Maniac says: July 28th, 2022 at 4:00 am

    Whoops, forgot my tinfoil hat. Now let’s watch this.

  46. Watched this video about a month ago, + looked at the chipset game Intel is playing, decided on Ryzen 1700x as my new build. I’ve never been a fanboy, but just like you Jim, I’m a technology fan. I’ve gone from Amd to Intel (goes for ATI / nVidia) and back depending on who offered the best performance and least bullshit. I can’t be happier with my purchase, coming from a 4690k. That being said, if AMD pulls some Intel style BS with their x470 Chipset and Zen+, I’ll be seriously pissed.

    Many thanks!

  47. David Tan says: July 28th, 2022 at 4:02 am

    Dodged a bullet. I was about to buy a i5 8400…

  48. RobBCactive says: July 28th, 2022 at 4:05 am

    Kudos!! Imagine an AMD Zen 3 dual chiplet part only 6c/12t 32MB L3 "base", but "speculative" additional cores rated with a dynamic system tool up to 16c/32t within a 144W (& 88W low end) profile. AMD ensures early adopters receive R9 grade review quality silicon but volume later is filled by reject bin chiplets with faulty cores.
    Subtle sluething in the video, usually these reveals are obvious to me but this sneeky trick subborns even the honest reviewer who’s not fanatically cynical.

  49. Brolivia Wilde says: July 28th, 2022 at 4:05 am

    On a related note about MCE, back in the summer of 2017, I finally got some spare time to troubleshoot why my CPU was behaving erratically ever since I upgraded to Win10.
    During the troubleshooting, each and everytime I tried a different BIOS, the default is for MCE to be enabled on my ASUS z77 board. I only remember it now after looking for videos I hadn’t watched yet from people I sub to and I came across this video again. Really a comment just to add another data point about what MB vendors are, and have been doing.

    also, after putting the BIOS back to latest version, clearing cmos, and everythign at default, still weird behavior, After a clean install of Win10, my erratic cpu behaviour magically went away.

  50. KFC Warrior says: July 28th, 2022 at 4:05 am

    Fuck intel. Once zen gets the clock speeds, its game over.


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